just another one of the chapters from the DVD called "All About Law School". I personally enjoyed most of the chapters in this DVD. A few were a bit more entertaining (comedic) than informational . . .but that was usually a welcome change in pace. I give it 'two thumbs up.'
Socratic Method (From the DVD "All About Law School"
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@YogiToad in the context of law school, it is the Socratic Method. However, any my school we NEVER get ANY answer. We just get the wrong answers ridiculed.
Socrates was a great teacher and his methods of instruction are the reference, not his political dialectic. Study a little more before you speak nonsense.
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Also, if at the end of my courses they are still bad piano players, they are so demoralized from all of the public humiliation that they blame their own perceived inadaquecies instead of blaming me for their failures (i.e. instead of blaming the one who just raped and robbed them).
I teach piano by socratic method. I don’t give the students any of the notes of the song I want them to learn. Why should I spoon feed them the notes of the song instead of making them figure them out for themselves. If they hit the wrong note I publicly humiliate them. And this way, they learn to think. The most brilliant part of it is I make a fortune on the lessons because I get paid by the semester and, this way, it takes an antire semester to learn one song.
why is this DVD so expensive? do you have a coupon for me? Serious.
This is not the Socratic Method…Socrates didn’t use scare tactics and humiliation. He would simply ask questions to whomever he is talking to to make them find out the answer on their own.
So true about the classes where the teacher grills you for not reading. It sucks…but you know you have to do your reading and they’re right, it keeps you motivated.
Advice: Just DO YOUR READING!
Note: If you can’t get it all done do the the first ones to be discussed. Then try and read the last ones, if someone else is getting called on the first ones.
If you’re utterly unprepared it’s often better to not go.
final word: when you finally get the hang of it. you’ll probably get called on a lot less. Then you’ll want to get called on. lol.
Passing entails a degree of shame lol
Exactly.. What the hell is socratic about this?
Knowledge is contained within, and we just have to find it, is what the socrates method would argue – akin to a “yes ladder.” I don’t know why interrogating is being labeled Socratic.
Is this law school from the 18th century?
I like how they say Socrates took a dialectic method ‘already’ in use by Aristotle…
…LOL. Aristotle was Plato’s student, who himself was a student of Socrates. Socrates was a pioneer because he applied logic to questions that weren’t thought to be the province of philosophers.
Then again, most of the people interviewed were from TTT Loyola. Guess we shouldn’t hold these documentary makers to that high of a standard.
@raewyon lol, yeah this is a shame… way to mess up historical facts… ahaha
Socrates did not in fact invent the socratic method he just adapted it
Socratic method is an excellent way to make you read. But you’re in law school you must read whether you’re going to be picked or not. When i was chosen i did faily well. I do read everything a few times just incase i missed anything the first time, the second time… Lucky for me after the professor saw i knew the correct answers after about 10 minutes of torture he moved on to the next. Made me nervous but i tried not to show it. I showed confidence.
This is NOT the Socratic Method. What Socrates said about his own method was,that he used questions to cause someone to debunk their own theories,and then would would “birth” their own wisdom as a midwife helps bear children. What these professors are doing is not Socratic, its interrogation.
Been here on the Literary end of the dialectical spectrum. But I am also fascinated by Philosophy and Law.
haha! I was just going to mention something about this. According to wikipedia (who couldn’t possibly be wrong) Socrates died in 399BC and Aristotle was born in 384BC. That would mean Socrates was dead 15 years before Aristotle was born. Considering this, It’s pretty amazing that Socrates was able to borrow aspects of his method from an unborn Aristotle.
Pretty negative attitude. Realize grading is blind and is based only on the exam, and then just take the Socratic method as an exercise to (1) keep you paying attention in class; and (2) see how quick you are on your feet. If you struggle routinely, don’t go into litigation. Cheers.
No one at my law school would dare make fun of or laugh at someone’s response during the socratic method (unless they said something they intended to be funny) because they know they’ll be next!!
Yeah, I find the last part of the video stragnge. I thought Aristotle got his inspiration from Socrates, being a discipline of Plato, who was in turn a student of Socrates… How could they mess this up? Apparently, they didn’t prepare for class… and if law school students came up with this video… the socratic method didn’t work quite as well.
I should have explained myself fully. What I meant by ‘falls for’ is the negative effect of the socratic method. When you hear of students ‘throwing up’ and ‘crying’ after lectures, there has to be something wrong in that, surely. When other students join in the ‘entertainment’ its just plain pathetic. It slows the pace of the lecture. I’d much rather the lecturer tell the student the work should have been covered and to sitdown. I don’t want the drama and the supposed ‘humour’ the goes with it.
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